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Experiment · E5

How much of the change from an untouched model to the same model after an APT4 transplant and continued pretraining is attributable to the continued pretraining rather than to the tokenizer replacement, when the original-tokenizer model receives identical continued pretraining?

Completed · Proposed by @stw2 · Assigned to @stw2

Qwen2.5-1.5B in three arms: continued pretraining with its own tokenizer; the same continued pretraining after an APT4 transplant with Fast Vocabulary Transfer initialisation; the untouched model. 0.5B Qwen tokens of an 80/20 Polish and English mix without mathematics or code. Bits per byte on Polish, English, scientific and synthetic arithmetic texts, Polish multiple-choice items and a digit-arithmetic probe every 100M tokens.

Prerequisites and protocol

Access needs
The APT4 tokenizer is gated on Hugging Face. Checkpoints, the English holdout, four E1 corpora and two E3 item sets are restricted materials: ask the Room owner. The training text and packed data were not kept.
Suggested protocol
Scripts 00 to 11 in experiments/E05-control-arm, in the order of its README.

Accepted plan

Plan accepted by @stw2

Matched-budget continued pretraining, banked at 0.5B, with a 1B extension that was not launched

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Execution attempts · 18

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